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From: Juhana Hakumaki (jhakumak_at_hidden_email_address.net)
Date: 10/24/1996



Dear fellow observers,

Such interesting discussion on elliptical halos! Thanks, I d definitely be willing to see and learn more on this topic. It s years since I was last updated on this issue. And to think that these halos have still managed to escape a 'definite' explanation!

Being the co- observer and photographer of the 18.2.1988 ellipse in Kuopio, I would like to bring out some more detail, though, on the conditions on that day. I remember having walked from High School that day in a direction very much perpendicular to the heating plant plume, towards the more distal end of the vapor plume (Timo Nousiainen lived slightly closer to the proximal part. As I recall, there seems to have been no difference in ice crystal density along that distance (about 800 m), and the temperature might have been around
-15oC. The crystals afloat were almost as if it was snowing but not
quite so. It s hard to explain, I ve never since seen anything similar. I remember the clouds in the background to have resembled cirro(/alto)cumuli. I think they show in the slides.

On the other three occasions that I ve observed an elliptical halo, the clouds have most resembled altostratus, and on every occasion there was light snowfall. Sadly I have no newer data, and I am no expert on cloud
types. Due to my own experience though, I feel inclined towards Dr. Traenkle s theory. I would be interested in learning more on the latest observations, either through this forum, or personally. Especially on the pyramidal crystals. :)

Cheers,
Juhana

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Juhana Hakumaki
NMR Research Group, A.I.Virtanen Institute University of Kuopio, Finland
jhakumak_at_messi.uku.fi